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He answered: I have often said that I have anathematized. He says to him, you anathematized the Typos? You anathematized the emperor. The servant of God answered: I did not anathematize the emperor, but a document

foreign to the orthodox and ecclesiastical faith. And he says to him: Where was it anathematized? By the synod of Rome, he answered, in the church of the Savior, and in

that of the Theotokos. Then the prefect says to him: Do you commune with the Church here, or do you not

commune? He answered, and said: I do not commune. 15Γ_104 He says to him: Why? He answered: Because it has cast out the synods. And he said: If it has cast out the synods, how are they mentioned in the diptychs? And he says: And what is the benefit of names, when the dogmas have been cast out? And can you, he said, show this? And he said: If I receive permission, and you command, I can show this very

easily. And when they were silent, the sakellarios says to him: Why do you love

the Romans, and hate the Greeks. The servant of God answered, and said: We have a command to hate

no one. I love the Romans, as fellow-believers; and the Greeks, as speakers of the same language. And again the sakellarios says to him: How many years old do you say you are? He answered? Seventy-five. And he says to him: How many years has your disciple been with you? He answered: Thirty-seven. Then a cleric cried out: The Lord has repaid you for what you did to the

blessed Pyrrhus. To whom he answered nothing at all. 14. 15Γ_106 And while so many things were being said in the secretum, none of the

patriarchs uttered anything. But when the discussion turned to the synod of Rome, Demosthenes cries out: The synod is not ratified, since the one who convened it was deposed.

And the servant of God says: He was not deposed, but he was exiled. What synodical and canonical action regarding what was done securely contains his deposition? But even if he had been canonically deposed, this does not create a prejudice against those things that were orthodoxly ratified according to the divine canons; with which also the writings of the holy Pope Theodore agree.

And hearing these things Troilus the patrician says: You do not know what you are saying, abba; what is done is done.

15. 0129 These are as many of the things moved and spoken as memory holds; and their

affair came to such a conclusion, releasing the holy old man from the secretum, into custody.

And on the next day, which was a Sunday, those of the Church, having held a council, persuaded the emperor to condemn them to this bitter and inhuman exile, separated from one another: the holy old man to Bizye, a fortress of Thrace; and his disciple to Perberis; where one cannot take a step outside.

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Ἀπεκρίθη· Πολλάκις εἶπον ὅτι ἀνεθεμάτισα. Λέγει αὐτῷ τόν τύπον ἀνεθεμάτισας; τόν βασιλέα ἀνεθεμάτισας. Ἀπεκρίθη ὁ δοῦλος τοῦ Θεοῦ· Ἐγώ βασιλέα οὐκ ἀνεθεμάτισα, ἀλλά χάρτην

ἀλλότριον τῆς ὀρθοδόξου καί ἐκκλησιαστικῆς πίστεως. Καί λέγει αὐτῷ· Ποῦ ἀνεθεματίσθη; Ὑπό τῆς συνόδουῬώμης, ἀπεκρίθη, εἰς τήν ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ Σωτῆρος, καί εἰς

τήν Θεοτόκον. Τότε λέγει πρός αὐτόν ὁ ἔπαρχος· Κοινωνεῖς τῇ Ἐκκλησίᾳ τῶν ὧδε, ἤ οὐ

κοινωνεῖς; Ἀπεκρίθη, καί εἶπεν· Οὐ κοινωνῶ. 15Γ_104 Λέγει αὐτῷ· ∆ιά τί; Ἀπεκρίθη· Ὅτι ἔξω ἔβαλε τάς συνόδους. Καί εἶπεν· Ἐάν ἔξω ἔβαλε τάς συνόδους, πῶς εἰς τά δίπτυχα ἀναφέρονται; Καί λέγει· Καί τίς ὄνησις ὀνομάτων, τῶν δογμάτων ἐκβεβλημένων; Καί δύνασαι, ἔφη, τοῦτο δεῖξαι; Καί εἶπεν· Ἐάν λάβω ἄδειαν, καί κελεύετε, δειχθῆναι ἔχω τοῦτο πάνυ

εὐχερῶς. Καί σιωπησάντων αὐτῶν, λέγει αὐτῷ ὁ σακελλάριος· ∆ιατί ἀγαπᾷς

τούςῬωμαίους, καί τούς Γραικούς μισεῖς. Ἀποκριθείς ὁ τοῦ Θεοῦ δοῦλος, εἶπε· Παραγγελίαν ἔχομεν, τοῦ μή μισῆσαί

τινα. Ἀγαπῶ τούςῬωμαίους, ὡς ὁμόπιστους· τούς δέ Γραικούς, ὡς ὁμογλώσσους. Καί πάλιν λέγει αὐτῷ ὁ σακελλάριος· Πόσων ἐτῶν λέγεις ἑαυτόν· Ἀπεκρίθη; Ἑβδομήκοντα πέντε. Καί λέγει αὐτῷ· Πόσους χρόνους ἔχει μετά σοῦ ὁ μαθητής σου; Ἀπεκρίθη· Τριάκοντα ἑπτά. Τότε ἀνέκραξε εἷς κληρικός· Ἀπέδωκέ σοι ὁ Κύριος, ὅσα ἐποίησας τῷ

μακαρίῳ Πύῤῥῳ. Πρός ὅν οὐδέν ἀπεκρίθη ὅλως. Ι∆´. 15Γ_106 Τοσοῦτων δέ λαληθέντων ἐν τῷ σεκρέτῳ, οὐδείς οὐδέν τῶν

πατριαρχῶν ἐφθέγξατο. Ἐν δέ τῷ κινεῖσθαι περί τῆς συνόδουῬώμης λόγον, κράζει ὁ ∆ημοσθένης· Οὐ κεκύρωται ἡ σύνοδος, τοῦ συγκροτήσαντος αὐτήν καθαιρεθέντος.

Καί λέγει ὁ τοῦ Θεοῦ δοῦλος· Οὐ καθηρέθη, ἀλλ' ἐδιώχθη. Ποία γέγονεν ἐπί τοῖς πεπραγμένοις συνοδική καί κανονική πρᾶξις ἀσφαλῶς ἔχουσα αὐτοῦ τήν καθαίρεσιν; Πλήν ἵνα καί κανονικῶς καθῃρέθη, οὐ ποιεῖ τοῦτο πρόκριμα τοῖς ὀρθοδόξως κατά τούς θείους κανόνας κυρωθεῖσιν· οἷς καί τά γραφέντα παρά τοῦ ἐν ἁγίοις πάπα Θεοδώρου συμβαίνουσι.

Καί λέγει τούτων ἀκούσας Τρώϊλος ὁ πατρίκιος· Οὔκ οἶδας τί λέγεις, ἀββᾶ· τό γενόμενον γέγονε.

ΙΕ´. 0129 Ταῦτα ὅσα ἡ μνήμη κατέχει τά κεκινημένα τε καί εἰρημένα· καί εἰς

τοιοῦτον τά κατ' αὐτούς κατέληξε τέλος, ἀπολύσαντες καί τόν ἅγιον γέροντα τοῦ σεκρέτου, ἐν τῇ φρουρᾷ.

Καί τῇ ἐπαύριον, ἥτις ἦν Κυριακή, συμβούλιον ποιήσαντες οἱ τῆς Ἐκκλησίας, ἔπεισαν τόν βασιλέα, ταύτην αὐτούς κατακρῖναι τήν πικράν καί ἀπάνθρωπον ἐξορίαν, διῃρημένους ἀλλήλων· τόν μέν ἅγιον γέροντα εἰς Βιζύην κάστρον τῆς Θράκης· τόν δέ μαθητήν αὐτοῦ εἰς Πέρβεριν· ὅ οὐκ ἔχει ἐξώτερον βῆμα ποδός