Gregory palamas's two demonstrative treatises concerning the procession of the holy spirit
But o god of all, the sole giver and guardian of true theology and of the dogmas and words according to it, the only most monarchical trinity, not onl
For because of this, having been both taught and enlightened, they were sent, so that they might teach as they were taught, so that they might enlight
Being refuted by those who have written down the particulars of all the holy synods, and by the very agreement, from those times until now and rather
Hearing [him] begotten of the father before all ages and having the [word] alone understood and implied along with [the phrase] from the father, j
Shall we fall away from this? may you not suffer this, or rather, may you not remain incurable having suffered it for the right has already become kn
Of the father, not as being necessarily co-understood? therefore, when it is said so many times concerning the son that he is from the father and now
Of the father. but the one by adoption is not from him alone but through the son from the father, and yet is not son only, but also spirit by grace: “
But nowhere did any of the theologians say either two or three. for just as we say that each of those three adorable hypostases is god and that each o
They say, therefore, that the one is from the other. what then of seth? was he begotten from one principle, because eve was from adam, (p. 106) and ar
Differs in nothing from the hypostatic [properties] therefore also the nature from the hypostasis, so that god, according to them, is not three-hypos
And the son. therefore without the cause and beginning of the divinity conceived in the trinity therefore the son has all things of (p. 114) the fath
Understanding, and that the spirit proceeds from another, on account of your ignorance concerning the word “alone”?
If, indeed, it were possible to name these things, such as father of light or projector of the holy spirit, how would gregory, the great in theology,
Is a union of the father and the spirit. how then does the same gregory, great in theology, say, the unoriginate and the origin and that which is wit
And what of the one who exhorts both theologically and patristically in metrical verses, that if you should hear about the son and the spirit, ‘as the
An apostle: but if this, it is not a creature, but rather god, as from god and in god.” and again, “the spirit therefore is god, existing naturally in
For we have heard a little above from the one named the theologian, who said that the father is the source and origin of eternal light, but the son is
For if you say that the spirit is spoken of after the son, being enumerated, which seems to you the safer of arguments—though i would say it is no les
He brought forth the word. but what he says in the first of his books *against eunomius*, that there is a form of order not according to our arrangem
Has it been handed down to be initiated? god and father, the beginning of all things, is father of the only-begotten son, who even before being added
Of the consubstantiality of the spirit, even if the latins force the sayings, dragging their meaning into their own evil-mindedness.
Of the god-befitting and most provident dispensations we render through all things the most concise doxology and thanksgiving and remembrance not tha
Was called by none of the apostles or the evangelists, but instead of this the voice of the father was sufficient for them. and by beginning i do not
Unassailable by those who do evil and who corrupt by counterfeiting the word of truth, known to all, wise and simple alike, and always on their lips.
Immediately, but not also from the son. we have additionally shown that, since the spirit is called the mind of christ, just as also our own
It is said and not from him, but with him, who was begotten from the father, the spirit also proceeds.
Furthermore after this we speak concerning the principle, and how the latin-minded answer sophistically to those who ask them, if they say there are t
They are willing, but at those who give a hand for correction—the power of the word of truth that leads to truth—they, like some who are truly incorri
Testimonies, if not rightly understood, would be able to assist those who excuse themselves unseasonably or to deliver them from their impiety and the
With god assisting us, having refuted them, (p. 192) and as it were undermining certain foundations, we will prove the whole edifice of their impiety
“john the son of zacharias,” according to the divine evangelist luke, (p. 196) and “as the lord spoke through his holy prophets to show mercy,” zachar
But do you see how this insufflation hints at the spirit being present and effecting the renewal for the better of the human soul, which we believe is
Varieties of services, but the same lord and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same god.” the divine powers and the
Shining in part? but concerning that which is now the subject, let us see the promise: and where is the not many days hence?
Whatever the father has is mine, he receives from what is mine and will announce it for both the wealth and the gifts are common to us.
It is fitting to glorify the eternal spirit but it is necessary that those to whom the manifestation is directed also be co-eternal, and in addition,
His. after him the holy spirit was manifested, the same glories of the same nature and
He sent, having returned whence he came down. but the son is both god and has become man therefore he was sent also as man the spirit was not incarn
Being signified, but not being the in-breathing itself, as having its existence by necessity from that from which the in-breathing is and if being se
Of the relation and of the surpassing connaturality and of the incomprehensible and ineffable perichoresis, we again find and proclaim him the father,
The holy spirit? i think not, unless he clearly wishes to fight against god. but, he says, it is called the spirit of the son himself and his own. fo
And they set aside the essence and the hypostasis of the all-holy spirit. therefore, the conclusion from division of the latin hypothetical syllogism
And there by the theologians, as indicative of the hypostasis of the father, but not as the son also being a co-cause with respect to the godhead.
The holy spirit. but those who connect or make pretexts first refute each,
Opposing them or both theologians according to them? by no means. therefore we shall strike this one or those ones from the choir of the orthodox, acc
Of creatures, it is so much more magnificent for the first cause to be the origin of divinity than of creatures and to come to the creatures through a
Of the all-working god the father towards the generation and procession of the son, creator of all things and the one perfecting all things, neither t
Proceeds from the father and from me? for he was not then speaking more humbly of himself, for which reason he would have omitted this alone, conceal
Proceeds, having this as a distinctive sign of its existence in its hypostasis: to be known after the son and with him and to subsist from the father.
The discourse is concerning the economy?» and after a little: for he says here the grace that came upon the flesh for all grace was poured out into t
According to the principle of its proper cause, that is, that the son is contemplated before [the spirit] from the father, stands in the way, preventi
To ablabius, on why, when we speak of one divinity in the father and the son and the holy spirit, we are forbidden to speak of three gods, having esta
To exist, just as the holy spirit, yet causally by generation, and the holy spirit also exists causally, but not by generation.
To theologians, for the sake of greater clarity. cain was the son of adam and his only-begotten before he begat the others, but eve was a part and sh
We shall understand and take the preposition through as with, along with gregory, who is named for theology, saying, one god for us, the beginnin
God of all? but i do not speak of him as co-creating, he says, but as co-proceeding. therefore, co-proceeding, the spirit will perfect (p. 298) himsel
But, was not the mission of the word to us, which proceeded from both the father and the spirit, also essential? but the mission was not a generation
As the nature of the father and the son is one and the same. for to speak according to the divine cyril himself, as he himself writes to hermias, “the
Of the spirit as more manifest and foretold and fore-believed and the son has naturally in himself the father's own and exceptional properties, the
But that one whole. but if his energy is immeasurable, much more his essence». thus the power of the truth spoken by us conquers all things, making yo
He proclaims christ the son. and the divine cyril in his *treasures* concludes that the spirit exists naturally in the son from the father, and says t
For the spirit to proceed from those made like unto the son by grace for most particularly from the father, as from him alone having its pre-eternal
Proceeding from the father himself that is, each of them immediately and from the father alone, that is, from the very hypostasis of the father. but
Of the divine sign from the heavens and the earth was shaken sensibly. do you see in such a sign that which proceeds not only being of the spirit, but
The word of wisdom is given by the spirit, and to another the word of knowledge.” but christ also dwells in the hearts of those who are not reprobate,
Counter-inscriptions
Second inscription (p. 348) since there are some who contradict the scriptural testimonies, which declare through the son
The son alongside the spirit. do you see how the sayings of the saints are both pious and good, but when taken up by you, are evil and impious?
Sixth inscription. since there are some who say that 'proceeds' and 'is poured forth' and the
They represent the father and the son as consubstantial with the holy spirit as far as is possible for it is not possible to find a perfectly suitabl
Proper to the son and from the essence of the son, the son would also be proper to the spirit and from the essence of the spirit because of the conver
Having its hypostasis from the substance is not from the remaining hypostases, but from some one of them, namely the paternal for it is not possible
You perhaps think we should give an account for not writing more often but we think we must apologize even for writing after so long a time. and what
Testify to a creative principle? if, therefore, because it is written “the principle from the principle,” nothing prevents us from speaking of two pri
Let us clarify the power of the most monarchical principle and refute those who dogmatize two principles for the one spirit, both that they dogmatize
To the cause of the son, for he too is equally a cause of divinity, or in saying it is from the father alone, let them piously grant one principle in
To think and to call, but never demonstrative, i am far from positing. for the inscriptions of the patristic sayings do not allow us to accept this, a
Is added to it. for no one, he says, is good, except one, god, the only wise, the blessed and only potentate, who alone has immortality, dwelling
And they conclude in a most archetypal principle? what then when we make demonstrations from things that are posterior, but prior to us, of the that
(p. 428) receiving, and that it is divided, even if not in itself, for which reason also in division it remains undivided, and that even in what is di
Having also written to him to do him this favor as a messenger, that if any discourse were left to us, it should come from us not to another, but to h
For it behaves indecently and ruins with interest and, know well, forces harsher arguments from us against those who are of a firm mind), but now afte
First to barlaam (p. 444)
Shall we cast away both? and how could you declare this, sitting as an arbiter over your own affairs, and not rather force the votes, desiring at leas
As i am able, i shall make it brief, being least willing to prolong it. besides, since the one who caused the scandal has been removed from our midst,
To one who clearly lies about things so clearly written? and how could one who does not hold truth in high regard attain to the truth when discoursing
And what apology he proposes, although it is a cold one and puts forward those things of the latins which have been refuted in many places and by us o
To the subject at hand: therefore, the example is one thing and that for which it became an example is another, but it is not because it is other that
Arranging them by your own authority, of whom you intemperately accuse? and not only the living, but also those who long ago departed to heaven and ar
These things would be predicated, not universally». for the super-essential and super-good and super-wise and super-luminous, of what else could it be
So that i may refute you on your own terms and the saying of solomon may come to pass: he who digs a pit for his neighbor will fall into it. what th
To speak of demonstrations, to this i would have ascribed the demonstration, not to those things from which i syllogistically deduced it.
To have become.” what is this you are saying, o man? did those men come to be in communion with an intellectual and divine light?
Do they bear witness to this? what is this, diogenes? i trample, says diogenes, on the pride of plato. with a different pride, diogenes, plato dec
The indwelling of grace, of a wonderful kind, almost ineffable and unheard of. for what word could explain how it both pervades everything and in itse
Nor did the attendant daimonion of socrates, which he obeyed throughout his life, reveal to you, the philosopher of our time, what their illumination
But let us leave this aside but i would add, telling you, 'cast away not only the ideas, but also the theories and the falsely named lights of this m
To be knowledge, and sensation would teach. have you seen how far this demonstration is from that which is beyond demonstration? almost as much as
You bring astronomical science, that is, the geometrical necessities will become weaker than spiderwebs and will fall apart, dissolved by your most de
Being neither dialectical nor demonstrative but that they are not dialectical was very easy for me to show, by merely indicating that the premises th
He makes them out to be a wonder, as having understood the divine excellence, and having brought them forward to tell about intelligible light (p. 5
Of a discourse that has been refuted and unwillingly supports our own arguments. but if the example has been found from that very source, one ought to
Is, but that also is true, that no one has ever seen god, this is what we said, that some divine things can be contemplated, but others cannot.
May grant that knowledge is gathered through contact with intelligible things, but divine things are also beyond mind how then could there be a diale
Gathering himself as much as possible, he uses the power of arguments against us, declaring that nothing of divine matters is knowable or demonstrable
Is known by knowledge and by unknowing” for that he is and that he is one is both known and demonstrated, but what he is and what sort of one is comp
I think i should pass over. for on the one hand, no one was ignorant that nothing exists in god by participation, and on the other hand, no one has so
What is said of other essences in themselves, this also exists for god as what is said concerning him for it is not possible to be and not to be if
Knowledge of god? for that which belongs to something in itself, it is not possible (p. 554) in any way for this not to be that. what do i mean? to be
But without proof there will be none. let us then set against plato his own teachings, as he is willingly set in opposition,
May be weaker in power, and that a demonstration from fewer postulates is not simply held to be superior, but that one from more is better than it, wh
Among them who have a rational, intelligent soul, do those who have surpassed all their kin in contemplation not even have a 'shadow of a shadow' of g
Elijah, having rested his head on his knees and thus having gathered his mind more laboriously into himself and into god, loosed that manifold drought
He transferred the doubling of the shadow from that to this, or rather, he does not even grant this to the observers of invisible things. and having s
For you yourself declare in your letters to us that a demonstrative principle and premise must be known by nature.
The universal has been synthesized for me from perceptions. what then, o philosopher? did you perceive the days and periods and eclipses that occurre
Of our piety and of his false doctrine, since even the great basil was called a tritheist by those who blasphemed against the son and the holy spirit.
Of him, even if with his lips he allegedly claims he is god. but god has, he says, energies, but they are created for every energy of god, apart f
Power and energy, from the patristic sayings put forth by us on these matters, he has gathered and composed against us, or rather against the holy fat
For all such things, passing into one another through one another, proceed towards non-being. but he who affirms that only the essence is uncreated, b
Of transcendent and most simple holiness and lordship and kingship and divinity is every good providence, beholding and sustaining the objects of its
Now barlaam proclaims ditheism, supposedly against us for it is clear that he makes this notorious for the sake of slandering the unassailable theolo
Created, because of which he began to be and ceased, but because of the divine and uncreated grace, and ever-existing beyond all nature and time from
To breathe a little, lest he become a suicide. for i heard him say in person here, that he often was in danger of bursting from helplessness, i suppo
Having purposed to obscure that choir and the wonderful harmony, having instilled no small courage in him.
but without proof there will be none. Let us then set against Plato his own teachings, as he is willingly set in opposition,
and against Aristotle his own, this philosopher that is, even if he were unwilling. But first let us see how he himself thinks to prove that our discourses concerning divine things are in no way a proof, and first the first point, as the strongest of the others and, as it were, unsubstantial and invincible, put forth freely and with its vehement rush having, like a whirring sound, the abuse echoing underneath: "What for the geometers is a principle and an axiom, this for us," he says, "are the declarations of the fathers; therefore, one must not take any from a syllogism," just as geometers do not take the principles of their own discipline. "But he who does this is ignorant and uneducated." Bravo, O educated one, not again waxing insolent with the excess of your education. But since, according to you, we hold the declarations of the fathers as geometric principles, what is deduced from these is for us a proof, just as what is deduced from geometric principles is for the geometers.
Where then is that point, for which your whole argument is made, that it is in no way possible to speak of proof concerning divine things? But the syllogism not made from these principles is not theological, just as one not from geometric principles is not geometrical. Therefore a theological syllogism is never dialectical, just as a geometrical one is not. Do you see how you have unwittingly sided with us? For the very opposite of your thesis has been shown to result from your own words on behalf of this very thesis (p. 560); thus everything that does not agree with the truth is also inconsistent with itself. But shall we demonstrate geometric principles from non-geometric principles, and theological ones from non-theological ones, or not? For apart from these, nothing is judged trustworthy concerning God by the fullness of the church, and one must enter into it through the courtyard, that is, through Scripture. Therefore we shall show these very principles to be trustworthy from similar ones, and reasonably so even to the heretics who contradict them, because he who inquires about geometric principles disbelieves the geometers, but those who inquire about theological ones, and especially those to whom our argument is addressed, say that they believe the attested theologians, but are in doubt about some of the things said by them. If, therefore, from what has been clearly declared by them and is agreed upon by these people, we consistently deduce the point in question, we have resolved the dispute, and for this reason the principles of theology are also demonstrated theologically, unless perhaps our argument should be with the Greeks.
And in these cases too, having for a little while set forth the probable arguments suitably for them, we shall then demonstrate the necessities of the miracles, from which whatever might be concluded will have been theologically demonstrated. The things which you continually demonstrate syllogistically concerning divine matters, if they are from theological principles, then what is demonstrated is a proof, for it has been demonstrated from demonstrative principles, according to you, but if it is not from what was said by the fathers, it will in no way possess trustworthiness. So that you demonstrate not only not demonstratively, but not even dialectically; sophistically, therefore, if indeed syllogistically. Thus you have yourself contended against yourself.
As for those things from which you boast, exalting yourself with bombastic speeches as one who has mastery in arguments, I think I shall pass over them. For just as above he unwittingly suffered the contrary of his own (p. 562) thesis, so too here, wishing to show himself most demonstrative and at the same time most theological, you have appeared as one of the uninitiated in such matters. For both the conversion, which of necessity most propositions of theological syllogisms have, of which some have equalizing terms on account of the utter uniqueness of the subject, and again, of the causes in demonstrations, however many are simultaneous, even if in a different way, you were shown to be completely ignorant, and that the lesser of the postulates are not lesser, when not also
δέ χωρίς ἀπόδειξις οὐκ ἔσται. Πλάτωνι μέν οὖν ἀντιστήσωμεν κἀκείνου παιδεύματα, ἑκουσίως ἀντιτεταγμένον,
τῷ δ᾿ Ἀριστοτέλει τά οἰκεῖα, τόν φιλόσοφον δηλαδή τοῦτον, εἰ καί μή ἑκόντα εἶναι. Πρῶτον δ᾿ ἴδωμεν πῶς αὐτός τούς ἡμῶν περί
τῶν θείων λόγους μηδαμῶς εἶναι ἀπόδειξιν ἀποδεικνύειν οἴεται, καί πρῶτον τό πρῶτον, ὡς τῶν ἄλλων κράτιστον καί οἷον ἀνυπόστατόν
τε καί ἄμαχον προβεβλημένον ἀνέδην καί τῇ σφοδρᾷ φορᾷ καθάπερ ροῖζον ἔχον ὑπηχοῦντα τήν λοιδορίαν˙ «ὅπερ τοῖς γεωμέρταις ἀρχή
καί ἀξίωμα, τοῦθ᾿ ἡμῖν» φησιν «αἱ τῶν πατέρων ἀποφάνσεις˙ οὐδεμίαν ἄρα χρή ἐκ συλλογισμοῦ λαβεῖν», ὥσπερ οὐδ᾿ οἱ γεωμέτραι
τάς τῆς οἰκείας ἕξεως ἀρχάς˙ «ὁ δέ τοῦτο ποιῶν ἀμαθής καί ἀπαίδευτος». Εὖγε, ὁ πεπαιδευμένος οὐ καί αὖθις ἐξυβρίζων τῇ περιουσίᾳ
τῆς παιδείας. Ἀλλ᾿ ἐπειδήπερ ὡς γεωμετρικάς ἀρχάς καί κατά σέ τάς τῶν πατέρων ἀποφάνσεις ἔχομεν, τό ἐκ τούτων συναγόμενον
ἀπόδειξίς ἐστιν ἡμῖν, ὥσπερ καί τό ἐκ γεωμετρικῶν ἀρχῶν τοῖς γεωμέτραις.
Ποῦ δή ἐκεῖνο ὡς ἐπί τῶν θείων ἀπόδειξιν οὐκ ἔνι λέγειν οὐδαμῶς ὑπέρ οὗ σοι πᾶς ὁ λόγος; Ἀλλ᾿ ὁ μή ἐκ τούτων τῶν ἀρχῶν συλλογισμός
γινόμενος οὐ θεολογικός, ὥσπερ οὐδέ γεωμετρικός ὁ μή ἐκ γεωμετρικῶν ἀρχῶν. Ούκοῦν θεολογικός συλλογισμός διαλεκτικός οὐδέποτε,
ὥσπερ οὐδέ γεωμετρικός˙ ὁρᾷς πῶς ἔλαθες συνηγορῶν ἡμῖν; Τῆς γάρ σῆς προθέσεως ἅπαν τοὐναντίον ἐξ αὐτῶν τῶν σῶν ὑπέρ αὐτῆς
ταύτης τῆς προθέσεως ἐκβαῖνον ἀποδέδεικται (σελ. 560) λόγων˙ οὕτω πᾶν τό μή τῇ ἀληθείᾳ συμβαῖνον καί ἑαυτῷ ἀνακόλουθον. Ἀλλά
γεωμετρικάς μέν ἀρχάς δείξομεν ἐξ οὐ γεωμετρικῶν ἀρχῶν, τάς δέ θεολογικάς ἐξ οὐ θεολογικῶν, οὔ; Καί γάρ τούτων ἐκτός οὐδέν
ἀξιόπιστον περί Θεοῦ τῷ πληρώματι τῆς ἐκκλησίας κρίνεται, καί εἰσέρχεσθαι δεῖ πρός ταύτην διά τῆς αὐλῆς, τουτέστι τῆς Γραφῆς˙
ἐκ τῶν ὁμοίων ἄρα καί αὐτάς δείξομεν πιστάς, καί αὐτοῖς τοῖς ἀντιλέγουσιν αἱρετικοῖς εἰκότως, ὅτι ὁ μέν περί γεωμετρικῶν ἀρχῶν
ζητῶν τοῖς γεωμέτραις ἀπιστεῖ, οἱ δέ περί θεολογικῶν, καί μάλιστα πρός οὕς ἡμῖν ὁ λόγος, πιστεύειν μέν φασι τοῖς μεμαρτυρημένοις
θεολόγοις, ἀμφιγνοῦσι δέ τινα τῶν παρ᾿ ἐκείνων εἰρημένων˙ ἄν οὖν ἀπό τῶν φανερῶς αὐτοῖς ἐκπεφασμένων καί τούτοις συνωμολογημένων
ἀκολούθως τό ζητούμενον συναγάγωμεν, ἐλύσαμεν τήν ἀμφιστήτησιν καί διά τοῦτο θεολογικῶς καί αἱ ἀρχαί τῆς θεολογίας δείκνυνται,
εἰ μή ἄρα πρός Ἕλληνας ἡμῖν ὁ λόγος εἴη.
Κἀπί τούτων δέ ἐπ᾿ ὀλίγον τά εἰκότα καταλλήλως αὐτοῖς προχειρισάμενοι, τάς τῶν θαυμάτων ἔπειτα προδείξομεν ἀνάγκας, ἀφ᾿ ὧν
ὅ,τι ἄν συμπερανθείη θεολογικῶς ἔσται ἀποδεδειγμένον. Ἅ δή σύ περί τῶν θείων διατελεῖς συλλογιστικῶς δεικνύων, εἰ μέν ἐκ τῶν
θεολογικῶν ἀρχῶν, ἀπόδειξις ἄρα τό δειχθέν, ἐκ γάρ ἀποδεικτικῶν καί κατά σέ δέδεικται ἀρχῶν, εἰ δέ μή ἐκ τῶν τοῖς πατράσιν
εἰρημένων, οὐδαμόθεν ἕξει τό πιστόν. Ὥστ᾿ οὐχ ὅπως οὐκ ἀποδεικτικῶς δεικνύεις, ἀλλ᾿ οὐδέ διαλεκτικῶς˙ σοφιστικῶς οὖν εἴπερ
συλλογιστικῶς˙ οὕτω κατ᾿ αὐτός σαυτοῦ ἠγωνισμένος ἔχεις.
Ἅ δή τοὐντεῦθεν αὐχεῖς σαυτόν ἐξαίρων ταῖς μαγαληγορίαις ὡς τό ἐν λόγοις κράτος ἔχοντα, παρεῖναί μοι δοκῶ. Καί γάρ ὥσπερ ἀνωτέρω
τἀναντία τῆς οἰκείας (σελ. 562) θέσεως ἔλαθεν παθών, οὕτω δή κἀνταῦθα ἀποδεικτικώτατον ἅμα καί θεολογικώτατον θέλων δεῖξαι
σεαυτόν, τῶν περί τά τοιαῦτ᾿ ἀμυήτων εἷς ἐφάνης˙ τήν τε γάρ ἀντιστροφήν, ἥν ἐξ ἀνάγκης αἱ πλείους προτάσεις ἔχουσι τῶν θεολογικῶν
συλλογισμῶν, ἔστιν ὧν ἐξισαζόντων ὅρων διά τό μοναδικώτατον τοῦ προκειμένου, καί αὖθις τῶν ἐν ταῖς ἀποδείξεσιν αἰτίων ὅσα
ἅμα, εἰ καί τρόπον ἕτερον, ἀγνοῶν παντάπασιν ἐδείχθης, καί ὅτι τά ἐλάττω τῶν αἰτημάτων οὐκ ἐλάττω, ὅταν μή καί