The Acts of the Disputation with the Heresiarch…

 1. The true Thesaurus to wit, the Disputation conducted in Carchar, a city of Mesopotamia, before Manippus

 2. Marcellus, as might well be expected, was exceedingly gratified by these incidents and summoning one of the prisoners, by name Cortynius, he inqui

 3. When Marcellus, the man of consummate piety, had heard this recital, he burst into a flood of tears, touched with pity for misfortunes so great and

 4. Accordingly, as this man’s fame was becoming always the more extensively diffused throughout different localities, and when it had now penetrated e

 5. On receiving the epistle, then, Marcellus opened it, and read it in the presence of Archelaus, the bishop of the place. And the following is a copy

 6. On reading this epistle, Marcellus, with the kindest consideration, attended hospitably to the needs of the bearer of the letter. Archelaus, on the

 8. But when the living Father perceived that the soul was in tribulation in the body, being full of mercy and compassion, He sent His own beloved Son

 9. I shall explain to you also how it is that the soul is transfused into five bodies. First of all, in this process some small portion of it is purif

 10. Now, with respect to paradise, it is not called a cosmos . or work truth

 11. He holds also that God has no part with the world itself, and finds no pleasure in it, by reason of its having been made a spoil of from the first

 12. When Turbo had made this statement, Archelaus was intensely excited but Marcellus remained unmoved, for he expected that God would come to the he

 13. My brethren, I indeed am a disciple of Christ, and, moreover, an apostle of Jesus and it is owing to the exceeding kindness of Marcellus that I h

 14. The judges said : If you have any clearer statement yet to make, give us some explanation of the nature Manes replied in his creation creation?

 15. The judges said : We need not inquire as to the manner in which that primitive commerce took place until we have first seen it proved that there a

 16. The judges said: Convertibility translates the person whom it befalls into another as, for example, we might say that if a Jew were to make up hi

 17. Manes said : Let it first be allowed on your side that there is an alien root of wickedness, which God has not planted, and then I shall tell you

 18. The judges said: We desire to have information from you on this point, Manichæus, to wit, to what effect you have affirmed him to be evil. Do you

 19. But if it seems difficult for you to understand this, and if you do not acquiesce in these statements, I may at all events try to make them good b

 20. On hearing these argumentations, the multitudes who were present were exceedingly delighted so much so, indeed, that they were almost laying hand

 21. But now, what it is necessary for me to say on the subject of the inner and the outer man, may be expressed in the words of the Saviour to those w

 22. The judges said: We know that a light shines through the whole house, and not in some single part of it as Jesus also intimates when He says, tha

 23. The judges said: If we consider that the light existed before the estate of the creatures was introduced, and that there was no object in an oppos

 24. The judges said: Tell us, O Manes, who designated the boundaries for the kingdom of each, and who made the middle wall? For Archelaus begs that du

 25. Manes said: Not all receive the word of God, but only those to whom it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven. Archelaus said Man

 26. The judges said : If you allege that the shepherd exposed the kid or the lamb to the lion, when the said lion was meditating an assault by such an

 27. We may give yet another illustration, if it seems good to you. A certain man, the head of a household, and possessed of great riches, was minded t

 28. Manes said: You are caught in the charge you yourself bring forward. For you have been speaking now against yourself, and have not perceived that,

 29. Manes said : Is not that word also to the same effect which Jesus spake to the disciples, when He was demonstrating those men to be unbelieving: “

 30. The judges said : Speak to those points, Archelaus, which he has just now propounded. Archelaus said in the knowledge of that law of Moses

 31. Listen also to what I have to say on this other expression which has been adduced, viz., “Christ, who redeemed us from the curse of the law.” My v

 32. Moreover, as to this word which is written in the Gospel, “Ye are of your father the devil,” and so forth, we say in brief that there is a devil w

 33. The judges said : He has given demonstration enough of the origin of the devil. And as both sides admit that there will be a judgment, it is neces

 34. I think that you cannot fail to understand this too, that the word “father” is but a single term indeed, and yet one admitting of being understood

 35. These things, moreover, he has said with the view of showing us that all others who may come after him will be false apostles, deceitful workers,

 36. None of your party, O Manes, will you make a Galatian neither will you in this fashion divert us as he will profess to do The judges said to the

 37. Archelaus said : Those sayings which are put forth by the blessed Paul were not uttered without the direction of God, and therefore it is certain

 38. And, in good truth, I hold Marcion, and Valentinian, and Basilides, and other heretics, to be sainted men when compared with this person. For they

 39. On hearing these matters, those who were present gave great glory to God, and ascribed to Him such praise as it is meet for Him to receive. And on

 40. I wish you to know, most pious father, that in these days there has arrived in our parts a certain person named Manes, who gives out that he is to

 41. On receiving this epistle, Archelaus was astonished at the man’s boldness. But in the meantime, as the case called for the transmission of a speed

 42. But I shall also offer, to the best of my ability, some expositions of the other words referred to that is to say, I shall show that Jesus neithe

 43. I shall speak now with the utmost brevity of the veil of Moses and the ministration of death. For I do not think that these things at least can in

 44. Now this word also has the veil. For up to the time of Herod they did appear to retain a kingdom in some sort and it was by Augustus that the fir

 45. On receipt of this letter, Diodorus made himself master of its contents, and then entered the lists against Manes. This he did too with such spiri

 46. Next morning, however, Archelaus suddenly made his appearance at this residence in which Diodorus was staying, before any one was yet stirring abr

 47. Then Manes, after silence had been secured among all, thus began his address: Like others, Archelaus, you too smite me with the most injurious wor

 48. On hearing these statements, the multitudes assembled were greatly moved, as if they felt that these reasonings gave the correct account of the tr

 49. But in addition to all that has been said already, I wish to adduce still further proof, so that all may understand what impiety is contained in t

 50. Manes said : No one, certainly, who may be able to give a reply to what has just been alleged by you need fear incurring the guilt of blasphemy, b

 51. When Archelaus had finished this speech, the crowds of people marvelled at the truth of his doctrine, and expressed their vehement commendations o

 52. No one, however, has ever made such an unblushing advance in the promulgation of these tenets as this Scythianus. For he introduced the notion of

 53. After this event all the effects which he had brought with him from Egypt remained in her possession. And she rejoiced greatly over his death, and

 54. But after these events they returned to their master, and reported what had befallen them and at the same thee they got an account of the numerou

 55. On hearing this, the multitude wished to seize Manes and hand him over to the power of those foreigners who were their neighbours, and who dwelt b

15. The judges said: We need not inquire as to the manner in which that primitive commerce took place until we have first seen it proved that there are two natural principles. For when once it is made clear that there are two unbegotten natures, then others of your averments may also gain our assent, even although something in them may not seem to fit in very readily with what is credible. For as the power of pronouncing judgment has been committed to us, we shall declare what may make itself clear to our mind. We may, however, also grant to Archelaus the liberty of speaking to these statements of yours, so that, by comparing what is said by each of you, we may be able to give our decision in accordance with the truth. Archelaus said: Notwithstanding, the adversary’s intent is replete with gross audacity and blasphemy. Manes said: Hear, O judges, what he has said of the adversary.129 The text is “quid dixerit adversarii;” some propose “quod” or “quia dixerit,” etc. He admits, then, that there are two objects. Archelaus said: It seems to me that this man is full of madness rather than of prudence, who would stir up a controversy with me to-day because I chance to speak of the adversary. But this objection of yours may be removed with few words, notwithstanding that you have supposed from this expression of mine that I shall allow that there are these two natures.130 The manuscript reading is, “tam si quidem ex hoc arbitratus est se affirmaturum.” For this it is proposed to read, as in the translation, “tametsi quidem ex hoc arbitratus es me affirmaturum.” You have come forward with a most extravagant131 The text gives ingentem. Routh suggests inscientem, stupid. doctrine; for neither of the assertions made by you holds good. For it is quite possible that one who is an adversary, not by nature, but by determination, may be made a friend, and cease to be an adversary; and thus, when the one of us has come to acquiesce with the other, we twain shall appear to be, as it were, one and the same object. This account also indicates that rational creatures have been entrusted with free-will,132 [Vol. iii. 301–302. See Coleridge (on Donne), English Divines, vol. i. p. 87.] in virtue of which they also admit of conversions. And consequently there cannot be two unbegotten natures.133 Adopting the proposed reading, “et ideo duæ, ingenitæ naturæ esse non possunt.” The text omits the duæ, however; and in that case the sense would be simply, And consequently there cannot be unbegotten natures; or perhaps, And so they (the creatures) cannot be of an unbegotten nature. What do you say, then? Are these two natures inconvertible? or are they convertible? or is one of them converted? Manes, however, held back, because he did not find a suitable reply; for he was pondering the conclusion which might be drawn from either of two answers which he might make, turning the matter over thus in his thoughts: If I say that they are converted, he will meet me with that statement which is recorded in the Gospel about the trees;134 [Matt. vii. 15–20.] but if I say that they are not convertible, he will necessarily ask me to explain the condition and cause of their intermingling. In the meantime, after a little delay, Manes replied: They are indeed both inconvertible in so far as contraries are concerned; but they are convertible as far as properties135 Propria. are concerned. Archelaus then said: You seem to me to be out of your mind, and oblivious of your own propositions; yea, you do not appear even to recognise the powers or qualities of the very words which you have been learning.136 Didicisti. But perhaps we ought to read dixisti, which you have been uttering. For you do not understand either what conversion is, or what is meant by unbegotten, or what duality implies, or what is past, or what is present, or what is future, as I have gathered from the opinions to which you have just now given expression. For you have affirmed, indeed, that each of these two natures is inconvertible so far as regards contraries, but convertible so far as regards properties. But I maintain that one who moves in properties does not pass out of himself, but subsists in these same properties, in which he is ever inconvertible; while in the case of one who is susceptible of conversion, the effect is that he is placed outside the pale of properties, and passes within the sphere of accidents.137 Aliena, of what is alien.